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		<title>By: ika chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ika chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I don&#039;t know too...but this anime seems to be my favorite...for as long as I can remember. The moment I saw it...I already knew it was going to be good...and it did...and exceeded all my expactations...I remember I used to cry a lot when I watch the anime...(and I&#039;ve seen this for like what? 3 times?) Gosh! The whole story really hits me... the &#039;Ayu - Nomiya&#039; story...I really could relate to that...(I cried so hard when I found out Mayama and Rika &quot;got together&quot;) ...I felt it was so sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I don&#8217;t know too&#8230;but this anime seems to be my favorite&#8230;for as long as I can remember. The moment I saw it&#8230;I already knew it was going to be good&#8230;and it did&#8230;and exceeded all my expactations&#8230;I remember I used to cry a lot when I watch the anime&#8230;(and I&#8217;ve seen this for like what? 3 times?) Gosh! The whole story really hits me&#8230; the &#8216;Ayu &#8211; Nomiya&#8217; story&#8230;I really could relate to that&#8230;(I cried so hard when I found out Mayama and Rika &#8220;got together&#8221;) &#8230;I felt it was so sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Theowne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theowne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I found the scene with the light enveloping the unopened boxes to be very moving as well, and very tragic.  There is so much in this world to experience and also so much to accomplish, but no time..... Think about all the fields of human learning, literature, art, music, science....., yet even one of these fields is too much for a single person to handle within their lifetimes.  So all we can do is resign ourselves into neat categories that society hands us and follow through on one chosen path, hoping that this is the path that we will least regret. 

H&amp;C is already a little-known anime, but all the H&amp;C fans I&#039;ve known just seem to like watching the romantic subplots and think its just an anime like NANA.  Only on the internet can I find H&amp;C fans who can see the deeper points, the comments on human nature which are so astute and so honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I found the scene with the light enveloping the unopened boxes to be very moving as well, and very tragic.  There is so much in this world to experience and also so much to accomplish, but no time&#8230;.. Think about all the fields of human learning, literature, art, music, science&#8230;.., yet even one of these fields is too much for a single person to handle within their lifetimes.  So all we can do is resign ourselves into neat categories that society hands us and follow through on one chosen path, hoping that this is the path that we will least regret. </p>
<p>H&#038;C is already a little-known anime, but all the H&#038;C fans I&#8217;ve known just seem to like watching the romantic subplots and think its just an anime like NANA.  Only on the internet can I find H&#038;C fans who can see the deeper points, the comments on human nature which are so astute and so honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Turtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First let me say I commend you on this article as well as your other H &amp; C piece. It is extremely comforting to see that there are other people out there who had began to watch this anime with the hopes of getting some mild entertainment value out of it. Only to be thrust back when it begins to touch on very sensitive life issues that quite frankly are never really brought up in your average day to day conversations. I can also relate to how you feel about H &amp; C II episode 7. Well in the sense that that when you say that that episode will be forever etched in your brain, that’s the same way I feel about H &amp; C II episode 6. See I’m a fictional writer and my head is always filled with different stories, and so I map it out in my head and start to put it on paper. But as you must know it consumes a lot of time to do this. So when I saw the scene of Hagu working on a project and then she turns around and sees the light rising to reveal all the boxes and she say, “I want to open all of these boxes but, a mortal life span is too short to do such a thing.” While at the same time this beautiful piano melody, (which is not only soothing in nature) but providing weight to the words she’s saying. I literally clutched my chest involuntarily because it struck me out of nowhere. It really hurt me because I realized that I was doomed to that same fate. It’s as if she voiced out loud what my subconscious dared not to speak. Then I also began conclude that even throughout history of all the greatest actors, writers, musicians, politicians, artists, scientists, and other people who were deemed the masters of their crafts. Despite all their talent and good fortune they would never be able to reach their full potential to investigate every idea or settle every little problem. Now I know some people would merely see this situation as common sense, that you can’t live on forever and that there is no way to fix that problem so you shouldn’t dwell on it. But it is still something that is bothersome to me. Well I’m terribly sorry for all of this rambling I know it was quite long. However I would again like to extend my deepest gratitude to you and the other people that feel so deeply about H &amp; C, it’s nice to know you’re not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say I commend you on this article as well as your other H &amp; C piece. It is extremely comforting to see that there are other people out there who had began to watch this anime with the hopes of getting some mild entertainment value out of it. Only to be thrust back when it begins to touch on very sensitive life issues that quite frankly are never really brought up in your average day to day conversations. I can also relate to how you feel about H &amp; C II episode 7. Well in the sense that that when you say that that episode will be forever etched in your brain, that’s the same way I feel about H &amp; C II episode 6. See I’m a fictional writer and my head is always filled with different stories, and so I map it out in my head and start to put it on paper. But as you must know it consumes a lot of time to do this. So when I saw the scene of Hagu working on a project and then she turns around and sees the light rising to reveal all the boxes and she say, “I want to open all of these boxes but, a mortal life span is too short to do such a thing.” While at the same time this beautiful piano melody, (which is not only soothing in nature) but providing weight to the words she’s saying. I literally clutched my chest involuntarily because it struck me out of nowhere. It really hurt me because I realized that I was doomed to that same fate. It’s as if she voiced out loud what my subconscious dared not to speak. Then I also began conclude that even throughout history of all the greatest actors, writers, musicians, politicians, artists, scientists, and other people who were deemed the masters of their crafts. Despite all their talent and good fortune they would never be able to reach their full potential to investigate every idea or settle every little problem. Now I know some people would merely see this situation as common sense, that you can’t live on forever and that there is no way to fix that problem so you shouldn’t dwell on it. But it is still something that is bothersome to me. Well I’m terribly sorry for all of this rambling I know it was quite long. However I would again like to extend my deepest gratitude to you and the other people that feel so deeply about H &amp; C, it’s nice to know you’re not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cristian, thanks so much for the comment.  I&#039;m so glad that people are inspired to write these long comments and have detailed discussions about these things.  Sometimes I wonder if I&#039;m the only one who ever takes these stories so seriously, they move me so much emotionally while others seem to just consume it as entertainment than move on.  But moments like these are forever etched in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cristian, thanks so much for the comment.  I&#8217;m so glad that people are inspired to write these long comments and have detailed discussions about these things.  Sometimes I wonder if I&#8217;m the only one who ever takes these stories so seriously, they move me so much emotionally while others seem to just consume it as entertainment than move on.  But moments like these are forever etched in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review and I agree that this is possibly the best episode of the series. I would like 
to forward a little suggestion though, that I believe the anime subtly hints at as well. I 
believed that both Kaoru and Tatsuo were being blinded by their lack of skill in a certain 
area, that they missed out on their good parts. Living always in the shadow of the light 
that was Morita, or his father respectively, they begun to think that this was the model 
of a successful, talented man. And while their personalities were indeed exemplary, life 
is far more complicated than creating a clear split in the road, or easily pointing out 
the weeds from the roses. It became more of an intrinsic frustration of theirs, than a 
rational observation, but needless to say I understand both their feelings and the writer brings the characters to such a stage where such questions flow naturally. 

But as I was saying earlier, it is subtly, suggested that these 2 have 
extraordinary skills. In the episode with Tatsuo, it is Tsukasa himself that while working 
in the office and giving Tatsuo permission to buy more stock, says that I&#039;m leaving this 
to you as I&#039;m not good with these sort of things. The reason I bring this up, is because 
had this line and scene been placed at some other time, its impact might have been 
mitigated, but it seems explicitly placed right before the moment of betrayal and while 
Tatsuo&#039;s motives are being revealed through interior monologue in parallel. The contrast is effective and it points out that perhaps, without the financial skills of his friend, Tsukasa couldn&#039;t have applied his great mind to begin with. And this too is an aspect of life where many great people lack other skills that would have prohibited them completely from reaching those heights. The sad part is that these men in the shadow, not receiving the recognition that our society only bestows on some skills, doubt their own purpose in life. 

The writer goes on to mirror this episode in the story of the two brothers, but note the 
catharsis that we uncover at the end of this story. Upon leaving for his own self-discovery journey, Morita is told by one of his brother&#039;s associates that Kaoru will be 
fine, because he has great imagination, talent and energy... and let&#039;s face it - to have 
built such an empire and systems that swindle 50 yen from all the children in the world ;) it takes skills. In retrospect, Kaoru and Morita are reenacting Tsukasa&#039;s and Tatsuo&#039;s parts, on a larger scale and in a different timeline. They also bear with them the knowledge of what has happened and that&#039;s what is saving them. They have only different skills, it&#039;s not a matter of who is worst or better, just a matter of perspective. Morita is great at doing jobs that require a lot of talent, but all the organizing and leadership were Kaoru&#039;s.

On the other side, Morita himself understands this and battles the notion of talent, in 
the name of which people love, hate and generally throw any other emotion they can muster at you :P. In a moment of existentialist philosophy, he tells Hagu that a man mustn&#039;t necessarily leave anything behind, just living is enough... well, it also turns out that moment was one of weakness for him, but he does raise a point... there&#039;s little purpose in doing anything that does not bring fulfilment to you... if you&#039;re going to paint, paint because you can&#039;t live without painting, because it gives purpose to your life, like Hagu does, and not because you want to prove a point, or otherwise. In finding this activity that gives purpose and meaning to one&#039;s life, it can generally be assumed that you have also found your forte, the light that will not fade no matter what, as Tatsuo calls it.

Sorry for the long comment, but I really felt like writing it after reading your review 
and I thought it might help if you ever get a chance to read it. The episode is truly a 
magnificent display of storytelling in the medium of animation. 

On another note, thank you so much for the fugainaiya (soundtrack version) piano score sheet. It would have been great if you had the split soundtrack version as well - that does incidentally appear in episode 7 when Tatsuo gives Kaoru the news of his company being taken over and then faints with the smile on his face... beautiful scene, beautiful pacing, beautiful music :)... I love the ball falling from the sky, almost as a ball of light, and him turned away, the intercuts, the color palette, the mise en scene... ah but there&#039;s too much to say and this is just a comment.

So don’t worry too much, there is no actual split in the road, it’s just us humans that creates it. You can arrange music for piano, I can’t. But I can do other things. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review and I agree that this is possibly the best episode of the series. I would like<br />
to forward a little suggestion though, that I believe the anime subtly hints at as well. I<br />
believed that both Kaoru and Tatsuo were being blinded by their lack of skill in a certain<br />
area, that they missed out on their good parts. Living always in the shadow of the light<br />
that was Morita, or his father respectively, they begun to think that this was the model<br />
of a successful, talented man. And while their personalities were indeed exemplary, life<br />
is far more complicated than creating a clear split in the road, or easily pointing out<br />
the weeds from the roses. It became more of an intrinsic frustration of theirs, than a<br />
rational observation, but needless to say I understand both their feelings and the writer brings the characters to such a stage where such questions flow naturally. </p>
<p>But as I was saying earlier, it is subtly, suggested that these 2 have<br />
extraordinary skills. In the episode with Tatsuo, it is Tsukasa himself that while working<br />
in the office and giving Tatsuo permission to buy more stock, says that I&#8217;m leaving this<br />
to you as I&#8217;m not good with these sort of things. The reason I bring this up, is because<br />
had this line and scene been placed at some other time, its impact might have been<br />
mitigated, but it seems explicitly placed right before the moment of betrayal and while<br />
Tatsuo&#8217;s motives are being revealed through interior monologue in parallel. The contrast is effective and it points out that perhaps, without the financial skills of his friend, Tsukasa couldn&#8217;t have applied his great mind to begin with. And this too is an aspect of life where many great people lack other skills that would have prohibited them completely from reaching those heights. The sad part is that these men in the shadow, not receiving the recognition that our society only bestows on some skills, doubt their own purpose in life. </p>
<p>The writer goes on to mirror this episode in the story of the two brothers, but note the<br />
catharsis that we uncover at the end of this story. Upon leaving for his own self-discovery journey, Morita is told by one of his brother&#8217;s associates that Kaoru will be<br />
fine, because he has great imagination, talent and energy&#8230; and let&#8217;s face it &#8211; to have<br />
built such an empire and systems that swindle 50 yen from all the children in the world <img src='http://omohide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  it takes skills. In retrospect, Kaoru and Morita are reenacting Tsukasa&#8217;s and Tatsuo&#8217;s parts, on a larger scale and in a different timeline. They also bear with them the knowledge of what has happened and that&#8217;s what is saving them. They have only different skills, it&#8217;s not a matter of who is worst or better, just a matter of perspective. Morita is great at doing jobs that require a lot of talent, but all the organizing and leadership were Kaoru&#8217;s.</p>
<p>On the other side, Morita himself understands this and battles the notion of talent, in<br />
the name of which people love, hate and generally throw any other emotion they can muster at you <img src='http://omohide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> . In a moment of existentialist philosophy, he tells Hagu that a man mustn&#8217;t necessarily leave anything behind, just living is enough&#8230; well, it also turns out that moment was one of weakness for him, but he does raise a point&#8230; there&#8217;s little purpose in doing anything that does not bring fulfilment to you&#8230; if you&#8217;re going to paint, paint because you can&#8217;t live without painting, because it gives purpose to your life, like Hagu does, and not because you want to prove a point, or otherwise. In finding this activity that gives purpose and meaning to one&#8217;s life, it can generally be assumed that you have also found your forte, the light that will not fade no matter what, as Tatsuo calls it.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long comment, but I really felt like writing it after reading your review<br />
and I thought it might help if you ever get a chance to read it. The episode is truly a<br />
magnificent display of storytelling in the medium of animation. </p>
<p>On another note, thank you so much for the fugainaiya (soundtrack version) piano score sheet. It would have been great if you had the split soundtrack version as well &#8211; that does incidentally appear in episode 7 when Tatsuo gives Kaoru the news of his company being taken over and then faints with the smile on his face&#8230; beautiful scene, beautiful pacing, beautiful music <img src='http://omohide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; I love the ball falling from the sky, almost as a ball of light, and him turned away, the intercuts, the color palette, the mise en scene&#8230; ah but there&#8217;s too much to say and this is just a comment.</p>
<p>So don’t worry too much, there is no actual split in the road, it’s just us humans that creates it. You can arrange music for piano, I can’t. But I can do other things. <img src='http://omohide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wizarcane</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizarcane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful review, I&#039;d say. And I agree, this is one of the best episodes of Honey and Clover. I just watched this episode last night and still I&#039;m watching it over and over again specifically on the scene where Tatsuo was confined in the hospital.

In reality, this is what people, including myself, feel the same as Tatsuo felt. Some sort of insecurity is growing to a person who seem &#039;behind&#039; or incompetent as compared to some people who are gifted enough and surrounded by people who love them. Nevertheless, this served as an &#039;eye-opener&#039; to me.

This anime is truly realistic. People who are melancholic in nature should watch this, although I&#039;m not sure if this would inspire or destruct their lives. I won&#039;t go further into details anymore &#039;cause you have elaborated and reflected well on the episode. 

How I wish I get to know more movie and series, not only limited to anime, which come with the same genre/theme. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful review, I&#8217;d say. And I agree, this is one of the best episodes of Honey and Clover. I just watched this episode last night and still I&#8217;m watching it over and over again specifically on the scene where Tatsuo was confined in the hospital.</p>
<p>In reality, this is what people, including myself, feel the same as Tatsuo felt. Some sort of insecurity is growing to a person who seem &#8216;behind&#8217; or incompetent as compared to some people who are gifted enough and surrounded by people who love them. Nevertheless, this served as an &#8216;eye-opener&#8217; to me.</p>
<p>This anime is truly realistic. People who are melancholic in nature should watch this, although I&#8217;m not sure if this would inspire or destruct their lives. I won&#8217;t go further into details anymore &#8217;cause you have elaborated and reflected well on the episode. </p>
<p>How I wish I get to know more movie and series, not only limited to anime, which come with the same genre/theme. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: wizarcane</title>
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		<dc:creator>wizarcane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful review I&#039;d say. And I agree, this is one</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, John.  I can completely relate with what you&#039;ve said - it&#039;s hard to really enjoy other anime when you have such a top-notch series to compare it to.  If you haven&#039;t seen them already, give the films of Studio Ghibli a watch (like Grave of the Fireflies, or Whisper of the Heart) for some more high quality anime.  I also agree with you about the romance part - the most effective and memorable parts of the series for me were the things you discussed.  Self-discovery, talent vs. ambition, friendship, family bonds (such as Takemoto and his father vs. stepfather, or the Kaoru&#039;s resentment of his father&#039;s treatment of Shinobu).  There is so much utterly human emotional content in this series beyond just romance, and that&#039;s what sets Honey and Clover so far apart from other relationship dramas.  I&#039;m around the same age as you are, and I have to be honest and agree that I don&#039;t know anyone with whom to discuss this series.  They are too into shows like &quot;Death Note&quot; and &quot;Naruto&quot; to tolerate a series like this.

I think you have written Tatsuo&#039;s motivations very well.  In my post I wrote that he wanted to see if Morita Sr. was truly a human like him with all the same weaknesses, and you&#039;re right, he wanted to bring Morita-san to his level, to lose everything, and discover if Morita would succumb to the same feelings which plagued Tatsuo.  Of course, he did not.  You know what the strange thing about the Morita storyline is?  If you grew up in North America, the phrase of &quot;go towards the light&quot; has become a cliche that is used for laughs.  Yet I never felt this way when I was watching Honey and Clover, just because of how well-done it was.  Like Tatsuo, Kaoru wasn&#039;t able to willingly go &quot;towards the light&quot;, because unlike his father, he couldn&#039;t shed his inner feelings of resentment and simply move on.  Morita Sr. knew that harboring over your negative feelings produces nothing worthwhile.

I also think it&#039;s really interesting to look back at the first few episodes, when Morita left for Los Angeles, and Takemoto followed him in Kaoru&#039;s car.  Kaoru seemed like such a different character back then, but remember when he asks Takemoto, &quot;Do you want him to come back?  Or do you want him not to come back?&quot;  Takemoto wonders why Kaoru asked him such a question.  Knowing now what we know about Kaoru and his relationship with Shinobu, it&#039;s interesting to think about his question, isn&#039;t it?  Perhaps he could see a bit of himself in Takemoto as well.

Back in the days when I participated in Honey and Clover discussions as the show was airing, a lot of people seemed to really skip over a lot of the Kaoru storyline, I guess because he wasn&#039;t a &quot;main character&quot;.  I think the Morita-Kaoru story is one of my favourites, no matter how &quot;minor&quot; it is, in any anime.  By the way, if you haven&#039;t already, you might want to check out the other post I wrote about Honey and Clover, it&#039;s rather long =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, John.  I can completely relate with what you&#8217;ve said &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to really enjoy other anime when you have such a top-notch series to compare it to.  If you haven&#8217;t seen them already, give the films of Studio Ghibli a watch (like Grave of the Fireflies, or Whisper of the Heart) for some more high quality anime.  I also agree with you about the romance part &#8211; the most effective and memorable parts of the series for me were the things you discussed.  Self-discovery, talent vs. ambition, friendship, family bonds (such as Takemoto and his father vs. stepfather, or the Kaoru&#8217;s resentment of his father&#8217;s treatment of Shinobu).  There is so much utterly human emotional content in this series beyond just romance, and that&#8217;s what sets Honey and Clover so far apart from other relationship dramas.  I&#8217;m around the same age as you are, and I have to be honest and agree that I don&#8217;t know anyone with whom to discuss this series.  They are too into shows like &#8220;Death Note&#8221; and &#8220;Naruto&#8221; to tolerate a series like this.</p>
<p>I think you have written Tatsuo&#8217;s motivations very well.  In my post I wrote that he wanted to see if Morita Sr. was truly a human like him with all the same weaknesses, and you&#8217;re right, he wanted to bring Morita-san to his level, to lose everything, and discover if Morita would succumb to the same feelings which plagued Tatsuo.  Of course, he did not.  You know what the strange thing about the Morita storyline is?  If you grew up in North America, the phrase of &#8220;go towards the light&#8221; has become a cliche that is used for laughs.  Yet I never felt this way when I was watching Honey and Clover, just because of how well-done it was.  Like Tatsuo, Kaoru wasn&#8217;t able to willingly go &#8220;towards the light&#8221;, because unlike his father, he couldn&#8217;t shed his inner feelings of resentment and simply move on.  Morita Sr. knew that harboring over your negative feelings produces nothing worthwhile.</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s really interesting to look back at the first few episodes, when Morita left for Los Angeles, and Takemoto followed him in Kaoru&#8217;s car.  Kaoru seemed like such a different character back then, but remember when he asks Takemoto, &#8220;Do you want him to come back?  Or do you want him not to come back?&#8221;  Takemoto wonders why Kaoru asked him such a question.  Knowing now what we know about Kaoru and his relationship with Shinobu, it&#8217;s interesting to think about his question, isn&#8217;t it?  Perhaps he could see a bit of himself in Takemoto as well.</p>
<p>Back in the days when I participated in Honey and Clover discussions as the show was airing, a lot of people seemed to really skip over a lot of the Kaoru storyline, I guess because he wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;main character&#8221;.  I think the Morita-Kaoru story is one of my favourites, no matter how &#8220;minor&#8221; it is, in any anime.  By the way, if you haven&#8217;t already, you might want to check out the other post I wrote about Honey and Clover, it&#8217;s rather long =)</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree. I am very huge fan of honey and clover, and no other anime has ever striked such an emotional chord within me as this one. And I curse the fact that this was the first ever anime I ever watched, as all other series now seem shallow. When you&#039;ve got a masterpiece, everything else feels a tad bland =(

As you said, Episode 7 has got to be my favourite episode of the second season. Some people think that Honey and Clover is just your average romance anime, but there&#039;s just so many other themes it explores. Surprisingly enough, my favourite parts of the anime isin&#039;t the love triangles, but the other human themes it explores. Takemoto&#039;s confusion about his direction in life, Hagu&#039;s talent, and its effects on her , Kaoru&#039;s inferiority complex, Shuu&#039;s grief about Harada, and how he&#039;s trying to fill the void that he left behind....to say it was just a romantic comedy would be ignorant.

There&#039;s this line Tatsuo says , &quot;Break me completely and return me to the mud&quot; or something along those lines. Here&#039;s how I view the episode (I hope you don&#039;t mind me rambling, I can barely find anybody to talk Honey and Clover with. I&#039;m about 18, and most of the people about my age I know find this series incredibly boring or &quot;emo&quot;)

I think why Tatsuo decided to betray Tsukasa was because he wanted to bring him down to the same level as Tatsuo was. He wanted to see how Tsukasa would react when he had lost everything, in a similar state as Tatsuo. And I felt that he was crushed at the way Tsukasa reacted. While Tatsuo reacted blindly to his feelings, betraying the man who had always been his friend, Tsukasa didn&#039;t stoop to his level, even when Tsukasa lost his company. He continued to be the &quot;light&quot; he had always been, and thats what I think Tsukasa meant when he told his children to run to the light, and not let the dark feelings overcome them. There&#039;s a few lines that stuck to me for a long time even after watching the episode. &quot;I feel like I can sleep forever now&quot; or something like that. This, coupled with the other line, showed how Tatsuo felt. That he realized that Tsukasa was a truly great man, and I think that really crushed him. And I agree with you about Kaoru. He saw his own reflection in Tatsuo, and I loved the way that the same scenario was repeated, albeit in a slightly different way. Kaoru was consumed by revenge, and the need to prove himself, that he became obsessed with buying back his father&#039;s company. But he, like Tatsuo, felt hollow after the &quot;victory&quot;. But, the difference between the two was that Kaoru got the chance for redemption, by giving his father&#039;s old house to the company&#039;s owner. 

The &quot;where do the paths split&quot; part really resonated with me. When he turned around, and when he thought that maybe everything was decided since birth, I knew that this would be the one episode I will remember, even when all the others have left my memory.

*Sorry for the super long comment. I just felt I needed to share this with someone who loved this episode as much as I did. =D Do contact me if you want to discuss further =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree. I am very huge fan of honey and clover, and no other anime has ever striked such an emotional chord within me as this one. And I curse the fact that this was the first ever anime I ever watched, as all other series now seem shallow. When you&#8217;ve got a masterpiece, everything else feels a tad bland =(</p>
<p>As you said, Episode 7 has got to be my favourite episode of the second season. Some people think that Honey and Clover is just your average romance anime, but there&#8217;s just so many other themes it explores. Surprisingly enough, my favourite parts of the anime isin&#8217;t the love triangles, but the other human themes it explores. Takemoto&#8217;s confusion about his direction in life, Hagu&#8217;s talent, and its effects on her , Kaoru&#8217;s inferiority complex, Shuu&#8217;s grief about Harada, and how he&#8217;s trying to fill the void that he left behind&#8230;.to say it was just a romantic comedy would be ignorant.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s this line Tatsuo says , &#8220;Break me completely and return me to the mud&#8221; or something along those lines. Here&#8217;s how I view the episode (I hope you don&#8217;t mind me rambling, I can barely find anybody to talk Honey and Clover with. I&#8217;m about 18, and most of the people about my age I know find this series incredibly boring or &#8220;emo&#8221;)</p>
<p>I think why Tatsuo decided to betray Tsukasa was because he wanted to bring him down to the same level as Tatsuo was. He wanted to see how Tsukasa would react when he had lost everything, in a similar state as Tatsuo. And I felt that he was crushed at the way Tsukasa reacted. While Tatsuo reacted blindly to his feelings, betraying the man who had always been his friend, Tsukasa didn&#8217;t stoop to his level, even when Tsukasa lost his company. He continued to be the &#8220;light&#8221; he had always been, and thats what I think Tsukasa meant when he told his children to run to the light, and not let the dark feelings overcome them. There&#8217;s a few lines that stuck to me for a long time even after watching the episode. &#8220;I feel like I can sleep forever now&#8221; or something like that. This, coupled with the other line, showed how Tatsuo felt. That he realized that Tsukasa was a truly great man, and I think that really crushed him. And I agree with you about Kaoru. He saw his own reflection in Tatsuo, and I loved the way that the same scenario was repeated, albeit in a slightly different way. Kaoru was consumed by revenge, and the need to prove himself, that he became obsessed with buying back his father&#8217;s company. But he, like Tatsuo, felt hollow after the &#8220;victory&#8221;. But, the difference between the two was that Kaoru got the chance for redemption, by giving his father&#8217;s old house to the company&#8217;s owner. </p>
<p>The &#8220;where do the paths split&#8221; part really resonated with me. When he turned around, and when he thought that maybe everything was decided since birth, I knew that this would be the one episode I will remember, even when all the others have left my memory.</p>
<p>*Sorry for the super long comment. I just felt I needed to share this with someone who loved this episode as much as I did. =D Do contact me if you want to discuss further =)</p>
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